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Epstein was almost certainly an Israeli intel OP, but his whole ring being busted and aired out into a national scandal shows the limits of their ability to influence, and while I'm willing to accept blackmail explains some of US political support for Israel, I don't believe it explains all or even most of it. It's hard to not just see it as primarily ideological brain-worms of the older generations who were naturally more inclined to support Israel due to the ideas they were raised on, coupled with the usual lobbying from domestic and foreign actors. It's not like a significant portion of the US electorate wasn't pro-Israel until very recently. You'd expect to see such sentiment represented. The creepy slavishness is mostly an American thing, and I've always interpreted it as a bastardized expression of American nationalist impulses that before Trump weren't given sufficient representation in American politics, for which which Israel served as a convenient outlet through which cowardly politicians could posture as "tough" without infringing on any important taboos. Especially with GWOT being serving as the background to the last two decades and Evangelicals comprising a significant portion of one of the Republican coalition, while Jews (historically very pro-Israel but now much less so) themselves ensured a similar pro-Israel bent on the Democratic side.
To clarify, I don't think anyone but the most dishonest Zionists would claim Jews or Israel never did shady shit. When I said plotting in my original post, it referred to the idea that their power and influence on the US is as a whole the result of some carefully orchestrated OP as opposed to a mostly organic development.
>I forgot to write is that religious rules or arguments seep into culture eventually.
On a very general level. But a Jew of the likes of Harvey Weinstein almost certainly never read a page of the Talmud in their lives. The Talmud isn't equivalent to the Bible, it's a massive compilation of rabbinical autism and serious discussions about a heaps and heaps of legalistic bullshit that laymen aren't expected to keep up with or understand. Outside of orthodox Jews (who in the US make up around 10% of Jewry IIRC), it's not typical for Jews to read it at all. A more fitting (but not perfect) comparison would be the writings of the Church Fathers in Christian theology--important and influential in the Christian tradition, but it's not something average Christians know, let alone have it influence their everyday lives.
And religious influence goes both ways. Just as a Jew is naturally influenced by his upbringing, so is he influenced by the surrounding environment. In the case of diasporoids, that environment will be significantly non-Jewish. And the less strong their personal attachment to Judaism, the more they're prone to consciously or subconsciously internalize non-Jewish practices and behavior. When you actually look at US Jews, you see a demographic group that for the most part doesn't live up to any traditional Jewish ideals at all: low birth rates, massive outmarriage rates, high rates of professed atheism/agnosticism, LGBT acceptance, you can go on. Within a century, outside of Hasid occupied enclaves like Kiryas Yoel, American Jews will become a token identity as meaningful as German-Americans--fully assimilated and indistinguishable from their gentile compatriots. Hasidim and ultra-orthodox Jews show what it looks like when your life is actually influenced by the Talmud to a significant degree, and it's a night and day difference from their Reform and Conservative counterparts, let alone atheist Jews.
Damn, I should write a blog.