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de Bernd 2025-08-12 18:17:20 Nr. 5546

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What’s the most exotic or unusual country you ever visited? I’m a traveling noob, so it was probably Iceland in my case.
>>5563 Is it worth visiting? I heard it’s cheap and has beautiful nature.
Transnistria, which can only be entered through Moldova, which is the least visited country in Europe.
>>5566 It was worth visiting ten years ago before all the Americans and shit showed up. Has been hyped for quite a while now.
>>5579 Is that the one that looks like a spotless copy of the Soviet Union but somehow frozen in time?
>>5581 Yes. That description also fits Belarus, though.
I don't understand the appeal of travel. What's the point of wasting money on being allowed to stand near some mountain or ruins, or some shitty dirty city centre that's no different from any other shitty dirty city centre, all in a crowd of annoying loud fat greasy sweaty stinky tourists? It's all just one huge scam. I get active tourism, like skiing and stuff, but this whole "woah, loot at these shithole ruins that are completely not like any other bloody fucking ruins on this planet" is simply retard money leeching industry.
>>5584 You do you. Other people do them. Luckily there's enough to see and do in the world so everybody can find their favourite part of travel.
>>5585 The issue is the mixture of cultures and industrialised tourism. In the XIX century and earlier it used to be a months long actual journey that submerged you into actual other cultures, allowed you to feel them through. Now you're taking a flight from your apartment to a hotel, that's just like any other hotels, only then to be walked through some specially prepared tourist areas, drink the same drinks, eat the same food and see the same people as in any other city on earth.
>>5588 This is how I feel about train and ship travel dying out. You don't see anything from an airplane and just want it to be over so you can gtfo. The orient express would have been an awesome experience in its day.
>>5588 > In the XIX century and earlier it used to be a months long actual journey that submerged you into actual other cultures, allowed you to feel them through You're romanticizing. Pretty much all people back then would have chosen today's conditions (fast travel, no need to transport valuables physically, no taxes and tolls at most borders etc.) if they had had the choice. What we might find attractive today was extremely burdensome to them.
>>5598 They didn't realise how good they had it, like us in the 90s. Convenience always comes with a price bruder.
>>5598 Yes, people are dumb and retarded, and will optimise all the imaginable fun out of anything they touch, given the possibility. That's why we, right now, having the understanding of both options, can look back and say that a third class flight in a cramped jet to stick your sorry bored ass into a standardised hotel and walk around some shithole overpaying for standardised tourist walking experience while drinking coca cola and occasionally swimming on a standardised beach for standardised 2-3 weeks a year is an absolutely shit experience, as compared to how people used to travel.
>>5600 There was an old hotel in the mountains in the alps where Bernd lived. Bernd once read a book about it. It took most of their guests one to two weeks to get there up until after WW II, when cars finally became more widely available and a proper road was built. Before that they traveled for several days by train to the nearest station and then it took two to three additional days to get to the hotel horse-drawn carts. This place was frequented by the absolute elite, even British Royalty was there regularly. They didn't have electricity before 1924, when a small water turbine was installed in the river.
>>5598 Also, >no taxes and tolls at most borders My brother in Christ, do you even have any idea what kind of an absolute fucking prison of the countries we live in ever since two World Wars and especially the interwar European refugee crisis have given the governments every single possible excuse to put every imaginable restriction on our movement? XIX century was the time of actual open borders that you can't even begin to dream of nowadays, with all your passports, and visas, and citizenships, and security checks, and all the other garbage.
>>5601 > a third class flight in a cramped jet to stick your sorry bored ass into a standardised hotel and walk around some shithole overpaying for standardised tourist walking experience while drinking coca cola and occasionally swimming on a standardised beach for standardised 2-3 weeks a year is an absolutely shit experience You're just trying to defend your own opinion by finding bad examples. This Bernd has traveled the world very extensively and I simply haven't done any of those crappy things. If you don't like standardised tourism, just don't be a standardised tourist.
>>5604 It's not about me, it's about how the absolute majority of the tourism is being conducted nowadays. Sure, if you have the money you can go and pay the Russians 20k bucks for a nuclear icebreaker trip to the North Pole. Very little people can afford anything but this trash standardised experience.
>>5605 That's a pretty extremistic depiction. There is no clear relation between great places/experiences and the amount of money one needs to experience them, apart from maybe the North Pole. Some of the best things I've done were cheaper than any standardised tourism package.
>>5588 >Now you're taking a flight from your apartment to a hotel, that's just like any other hotels, only then to be walked through some specially prepared tourist areas, drink the same drinks, eat the same food and see the same people as in any other city on earth That one is on you though. No one is stopping you from travelling by coach or train. No one is stopping you from visiting less touristy places. No one is stopping you from going to small restaurants where you order things you never heard of with Google translate. Sure, I can autistically drink a Coca Cola in the middle of the jungle while I'm travelling in a Swiss group where they babble in Swiss German about the same shit they do at home. But then I shouldn't complain about my choice to do so.
Probably Nepal, spent about 2 months in total there now and still not sick of it. No overtourism, no crowds of fat and smelly tards, just Bernd (mostly) alone in the mountains. Infrastructure is 404 though, which can be painful.
>>5618 This Just don't go to typical tourist places but travel through the country. I do it like that everytime. Either with car, by train or with bicycle, if it's a longer trip.
Been to Dominican Republic a few times. Pretty cool people. They drive without much rules. Lane markers are only suggestions, it would drive an OCD person crazy. A lot like Puerto Rico
>>5621 I hear that the Mount Everest is completely overcrowded. I saw a Nepalese movie called Shambhala recently though, the country looked pretty cool.
>>5769 I don't go during Everest season (around May), but you only really notice it around basecamp anyway. I was at Ama Dablam during summit season last year and it was quite busy with helicopters flying every few minutes. Don't think I'll summit any of these though since I hate doing guided tours.
Israel Paranoia, unique historical religous buildings and beautiful women with M16s everywhere Finland autists, beautiful nature and saunas everywhere the autists become your best friends, once they start drinking Havent been anymore exotic like asia or africa